Government & Politics

Same sex marriage

Government & Politics

Posted by: freddy2112k

21st Sep 2017 04:46am

What a way for the Liberal party to do what is what the majority of the country wants without upsetting the out of date hard liner traditional party members and go against their founding principles by been seeing to keep the old fashioned Liberals happy by not passing the same sex marriage law .. keeping them happy... and by asking the people what they all ready know with a 120 million dollar postal survey... which at the end of the day can be rejected by the politicians. . Funny how Christopher Pine was recorded at the national party meeting stating the the marriage law was going to be past sooner than later. . Next thing you know POSTAL VOTE.. Same dex marriage is only the right to have the same LEGAL rights as every other married couple in relation to finances properties rights to medical desisions if one cant make them for themselves. .. It has nothing to do with religion at all but this seems to be the main issue.....I was brought up with religion but have left it behind me and doesnt pay any part of my life or control my rights .. so why should something that many people dont believe control what they can do... same sex relationships are everywhere and are as good as traditional couples so why not give them the same legal rigjts as the rest of us


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The Fat Man
  • 13th Nov 2017 11:52pm

The definition of marriage has always been the union between a man and a woman. What rights does man have to change a union that was instigated by God who finds this action between two persons of the same sex abominable.
This is not just a case of same sex couples marrying, but this will be a costly problem for our governments, both state and federal, to keep abreast of the changing of laws in all respects of unions which could lead to costly law suits in the future.

ahd
  • 12th Nov 2017 07:48pm

SSM is only one aspect of this whole saga! Quite frankly, it is a waste of taxpayers money. Gay couples already get equal rights along with defacto couples so why fight for marriage laws to be changed for them?? If that isn't enough, it will also lead to significant change in sex education with our school children. If this trend follows other countries, it will eventually implement laws that will allow our chidren to decide their gender depending on how they feel that day! Absolutely crazy and dangerous! The "safe school" program will be implemented if the YES vote wins and you wonb't be able to do anything about it even if you disagree with this aspect. As we are already seeing in this whole debate, freedom of speech & in the future freedom of religion will be undermined! This whole SSM debacle will ultimately affect society but it is just too soon to tell how!!

omygod
  • 12th Nov 2017 04:42pm

who needs a piece of paper to say their married, just get a good lawyer to draw up any will, medical directive, or preneptuals. why spend 120 million when this money could go to lots of essential and deserving services. i really don't care if you are gay, straight, or corkscrewed, just don't use hard earned money for bloody stupid polls. we are asked to suck it up on some many issues that cost money, there isn't an endless supply.

Bigfoot
  • 12th Nov 2017 09:06am

I have a daughter who is "Straight" and a daughter who is "Gay". I love them both very much and don't care what they are as long as they are happy. I have just one concern about "Gays", I don't believe they should be able to adopt children as it is not a "Normal" upbringing.

Captain Slog
  • 13th Nov 2017 06:54am
I have a daughter who is "Straight" and a daughter who is "Gay". I love them both very much and don't care what they are as long as they are happy. I have just one concern about "Gays", I don't...

I agree! But don't you really mean NORMAL? The other is Defected! I feel for you.
Queers should NOT EVER be allowed NEAR children. Its not right!!

chickenman
  • 31st Oct 2017 08:39pm

if marriage is such an outdated and useless event, why are these same sex activists so intent on keeping it active? why not coin another word/term to describe a "modern" issue. the real reason behind this push is to redefine the meaning of marriage and all it entails. same sex couples already have "recognition , acceptance and the rights of married/de-facto couples: if they need a ceremony and certificate to prove they are together, use another wprd/term, and leave the word "marriage" as it is.; a union between male and female.

Captain Slog
  • 13th Nov 2017 06:51am
if marriage is such an outdated and useless event, why are these same sex activists so intent on keeping it active? why not coin another word/term to describe a "modern" issue. the real reason...

.How many out there remember the old Joke. . .
Q: WHY did the Chihuahua marry the Great Dane? Mouse Marry the Elephant [whatever version you may have heard] ?
A: Because he HAD to!

These days, no-one GETS it! SHOTGUN Marriages. No-one remembers what they're all about, except some of. MOST Kids today ARE Literally BASTARDS, like it or not. For those who came in late, what all this means is MARRIAGE is the Legal Joining of a MAN and a Woman in Matrimony. A rather fancy word for Marriage. It, as I understand it, makes sure that a MAN is Sworn to be with this WOMAN for LIFE through Sickness and Health, Poverty or Wealth, and to LEGITIMISE their Kids. BASTARDS are ILLEGITIMATE Children, as we all know. It was supposed to be shameful to have kids out of Marriage. But, nowadays. . . apparently, WHO CARES? Well, I DO!! That is because these days, people have seemed to have reverted BACK to being just ANIMALS when it comes to having kids. My nephews are a perfect example, and some of you may also relate to this.
My Nephew [I said Nephews, because I don't know which one. They're TWINS!] had a girlfriend and had a baby girl with her. They broke up when she was just about School age, and he now has another girlfriend and yet another baby girl. We are so close [NOT!] that she doesn't even KNOW who I am. His EX-girlfriend has since found someone else and she has also had another kid with HIM. WHAT the smeg is going on?? There's NO REAL FAMILY at all!! WHO'S with WHO, Who is Family and Who ISN"T? What a bloody MESS! NONE of them have anything to do with me anyway, because they're just SO anti-social, which is fine by me. AS far as I am concerned I have NO Family!!
I agree with BUCK-BUCK-BUCK BUUUUCK! CHICKEN MAAAAAAN!, [Sorry!] Marriage IS the Legal Union between MAN and WOMAN. NOT same sex!! Civil Union was created to mean the very SAME thing, but for those who DON'T want to be OWNED by the church. Religion has nothing to do with it. The church just wants to OWN you, and MAKE you do their bidding. Marriage, whatever you call it, SHOULD BE between MAN and WOMAN and NOT Queers. Its as simple as that. How STUPID does, as we saw on the News recently as two "men" got "married", THIS sound? "I now pronounce you. . . husband and husband." WHAAAAT? WHAT is to become of it? NOTHING!!! They're just doing it get attention!! SICK, SICK, SICK!!

Captain Slog
  • 13th Nov 2017 06:51am
if marriage is such an outdated and useless event, why are these same sex activists so intent on keeping it active? why not coin another word/term to describe a "modern" issue. the real reason...

.How many out there remember the old Joke. . .
Q: WHY did the Chihuahua marry the Great Dane? Mouse Marry the Elephant [whatever version you may have heard] ?
A: Because he HAD to!

These days, no-one GETS it! SHOTGUN Marriages. No-one remembers what they're all about, except some of. MOST Kids today ARE Literally BASTARDS, like it or not. For those who came in late, what all this means is MARRIAGE is the Legal Joining of a MAN and a Woman in Matrimony. A rather fancy word for Marriage. It, as I understand it, makes sure that a MAN is Sworn to be with this WOMAN for LIFE through Sickness and Health, Poverty or Wealth, and to LEGITIMISE their Kids. BASTARDS are ILLEGITIMATE Children, as we all know. It was supposed to be shameful to have kids out of Marriage. But, nowadays. . . apparently, WHO CARES? Well, I DO!! That is because these days, people have seemed to have reverted BACK to being just ANIMALS when it comes to having kids. My nephews are a perfect example, and some of you may also relate to this.
My Nephew [I said Nephews, because I don't know which one. They're TWINS!] had a girlfriend and had a baby girl with her. They broke up when she was just about School age, and he now has another girlfriend and yet another baby girl. We are so close [NOT!] that she doesn't even KNOW who I am. His EX-girlfriend has since found someone else and she has also had another kid with HIM. WHAT the smeg is going on?? There's NO REAL FAMILY at all!! WHO'S with WHO, Who is Family and Who ISN"T? What a bloody MESS! NONE of them have anything to do with me anyway, because they're just SO anti-social, which is fine by me. AS far as I am concerned I have NO Family!!
I agree with BUCK-BUCK-BUCK BUUUUCK! CHICKEN MAAAAAAN!, [Sorry!] Marriage IS the Legal Union between MAN and WOMAN. NOT same sex!! Civil Union was created to mean the very SAME thing, but for those who DON'T want to be OWNED by the church. Religion has nothing to do with it. The church just wants to OWN you, and MAKE you do their bidding. Marriage, whatever you call it, SHOULD BE between MAN and WOMAN and NOT Queers. Its as simple as that. How STUPID does, as we saw on the News recently as two "men" got "married", THIS sound? "I now pronounce you. . . husband and husband." WHAAAAT? WHAT is to become of it? NOTHING!!! They're just doing it get attention!! SICK, SICK, SICK!!

jimmy
  • 25th Oct 2017 03:06pm

What rights aren't you getting?

Captain Slog
  • 13th Nov 2017 06:21am
What rights aren't you getting?

Like ALL of us! The RIGHT to Defend Ourselves. Its not only Our Right, its NATURAL!! And I am NOT going to be bullied by TROLLS who are trying to stir up trouble in this Site! I am making a stand for all the decent people who are Members of this site. On saying that, I Wish to humbly Apologise for the Language I used in my Comments in response to these IDIOTS who are baiting me. I HATE BULLIES!!

Captain Slog
  • 24th Oct 2017 10:14am

DON'T DO IT, AUSTRALIA!!

DON'T legalise same sex "Marriage!"

Same Sex says it all! Its just WRONG and bloody PERVERTED, FILTHY and OBSCENE!! And I'm not even religious. IF anything the pope is a dirty poofter, along with the rest of his pervert, kiddy fiddling pervert catholics and other christians.

Marriage is supposed to be between MALE and FEMALE Partners. Same sex "unions" are just PERVERTED!! Nothing will EVER become of them. They CAN'T breed, and if this sort of crap goes on, Humans, as if they aren't MAD enough, will breed themselves OUT of existence.

If you want an example of how perverted queers are, just listen to that song "LOLA" by The Kinks. These filthy perverts dress up like girls and try it on with blokes, resulting in the obvious reaction. BOOM!

What really hurts me is, I've seen a lovely girl, and just sort of admired her from a distance, be it on TV, In magazines, or wherever I go, and she turns out to be a lesbian. WHAT the hell is WRONG with our World?? As my sister puts it, "It must be something in the Water."

You should've see what happened as soon as the same sex bill was passed in NZ! All these filthy queer parliamentarians went mental and pashed each other in live TV . . . IN PARLIAMENT. Now we know who NOT to vote for!!

Just because IDIOTS legalise same sex "marriage", it doesn't mean its right. As the old saying goes, "If people started jumping off cliffs for "fun", would YOU do it?"

No wonder I'm SINGLE!! The World is MAD and bloody DANGEROUS!!

8181
  • 13th Nov 2017 04:09pm
DON'T DO IT, AUSTRALIA!!

DON'T legalise same sex "Marriage!"

Same Sex says it all! Its just WRONG and bloody PERVERTED, FILTHY and OBSCENE!! And I'm not even religious. IF...

"What really hurts me is, I've seen a lovely girl, and just sort of admired her from a distance, be it on TV, In magazines, or wherever I go, and she turns out to be a lesbian. WHAT the hell is WRONG with our World??" - After reading your replies on this subject it's pretty obvious no intelligent woman would ever want you. What does it matter if some woman you don't know is a lesbian? All you're doing is perving anyway. Do you secretly want to control women? What's the REAL issue behind you're hurt? I'm dead set embarrassed for the human race when there are adults that still act like you have done in this forum.

Captain Slog
  • 13th Nov 2017 05:51am
and with that attitude you will be for along time more

WHO CARES?? YOU don't!!

Captain Slog
  • 13th Nov 2017 05:24am
yet another that will be a lonely single old grumpy man

I may be lonely, but at least I'm NOT a queer pervert!
IF I was fortunate enough to have a Life Partner, I would prefer to have a Natural FEMALE Partner. The way its MEANT to be.
These responses seem to be perfect timing, considering all the filth in the News lately about Hollywood and their preditorial perverts. And its getting WORSE!! I am laughing myself stupid over this. All these queers and their supporters, they're backing all this evil perversion. Let the queers be married, you say. Leaglise the queers you say. Lets show the World what being queer is ALL about, is the real message. Free to be perverts, Free to be preditors on ANYONE, Male or Female. Free to ruin people's lives and reputations. Free to ruin their OWN reputations, just like that filthy jew, Weinstein!! What a filthy scumbag!! Am I standing on people's toes? TOUGH!! The GOOD people are wearing Steel Toe Capped Boots. Its the queers and perverts who are upset.. WHO CARES? Queers should be JAILED!! They aren't "funny." They're INSANE!! You don't have to be religious to oppose this filth. Its just Common Decency!! I am very scared for the Kids of the World. Especially the kids that these queers are adopting.
There used to be an old Joke that went:
Q What is the Definition of a "miracle"?
A: Two queers walking down the street with a Pram.
But its HAPPENING, and it most certainly is NO "miracle!" They're just simply ADOPTING kids, and will be turning them into queers, too. Or, at least driving them NUTS because they have NO Real Mother or Father, or even KNOW what a Mother and Father IS!
For all you Decent and SANE People out there, I am very sure you know what I mean, and I Support you all the way, and if you Voted NO, Good on You!!
And, Freddy2112k, How do YOU know how old I am? AGE has nothing to do with it. And as for being lonely, I've just LOST trust in people. They ALL break someone's heart, and I just can't figure them out. I Give up on so-called "Love." There's NO SUCH THING!!

freddy2112k
  • 12th Nov 2017 08:55pm
DON'T DO IT, AUSTRALIA!!

DON'T legalise same sex "Marriage!"

Same Sex says it all! Its just WRONG and bloody PERVERTED, FILTHY and OBSCENE!! And I'm not even religious. IF...

yet another that will be a lonely single old grumpy man

freddy2112k
  • 12th Nov 2017 08:50pm
DON'T DO IT, AUSTRALIA!!

DON'T legalise same sex "Marriage!"

Same Sex says it all! Its just WRONG and bloody PERVERTED, FILTHY and OBSCENE!! And I'm not even religious. IF...

and with that attitude you will be for along time more

PukPuk
  • 15th Oct 2017 12:42pm

First up, I voted YES even though it goes against my traditional upbringing. Just because I voted YES does not mean no one else has any entitlement to express their view by voting Yes or No. If the clowns in Canberra on the other side had not played politics and let the plebisite go ahead in last March as per stated in the election campaign and originally proposed by them years earlier, we would now be seeing the debate and legislation in parliament already and possibly passed. The whole purpose of the plebiscite (and now the watered down postal vote) is to give everyone the chance to have their say (ie vote) and not just the noisy ones at the two ends of the debate. Commonsense would have had the plebiscite done at the same time as the last election as voting for any particular party for general economic etc issues has no relevance to changing the fabric of society for generations to come which is a lot longer than 3 years. I believe the Yes vote will get up in which case the No group cannot say they did not have the opportunity to have their voice heard. Anything different could lead to animosity going forward.

Captain Slog
  • 13th Nov 2017 05:50am
First up, I voted YES even though it goes against my traditional upbringing. Just because I voted YES does not mean no one else has any entitlement to express their view by voting Yes or No. If the...

If you were brought up right and knew that queers were WRONG, as I do, you voted YES because you're an IDIOT!! You got caught up in all the HYPE and Hysteria. I don't know what all this "PLEB" stuff is, its all a load of rubbish to me. Everything you said just sounds like a rather high browed argument, trying to sound intelligent. We were ALL, or most of us anyway, taught Right from Wrong, and its fairly straight forward. Queers have always been the curse to society, because they ARE just SO WRONG!! Enough said. I'm so sick of all this crap!!

mumby
  • 15th Oct 2017 10:44am

It is NOT what the majority want. The minority is always the loudest.

Captain Slog
  • 13th Nov 2017 05:39am
t is NOT what the majority want. The minority is always the loudest.yelled the angry minority of people living in he past..they have been persecuted long enough,,what you do in the bedroom my be...

No-one is living in "The Past" as you put it. We are living in the NOW and queers will ALWAYS be filthy, disgusting perverts. What those bum bandits do in THEIR Shit Pits [Excuse me, Folks?] is THEIR filthy business. Bringing it into the open, and showing it off, especially in public toilets, hence "SHIT PITS", is just what they want. And what they've always been doing. They just want it to be LEGAL, like the NZ Government STUPIDLY did. They even legalised prostitution, and Christchurch is now littered with used condoms, Needles and other rubbish. Some people have even had shagging filth doing it in their OWN front gardens, Crapping there, too and shooting up large with their filthy drugs. And the cops won't do a thing about it. And, is THIS What Australia wants? My Answer is NO! When the crap hits the fan, you can guarantee a queer was the one who threw it. Now all we have to do is GET RID of the queers!! Let them KNOW that they aren't wanted in decent society.

freddy2112k
  • 12th Nov 2017 08:54pm
It is NOT what the majority want. The minority is always the loudest.

t is NOT what the majority want. The minority is always the loudest.yelled the angry minority of people living in he past..they have been persecuted long enough,,what you do in the bedroom my be worse that what you see them as doing

Unjay
  • 4th Oct 2017 06:20pm

Yes, Bob Hawke today called it the worst waste of money by any Australian Prime Minister in history!

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