Government & Politics

Gillard vs Abott

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Posted by: Chubbz170

13th Jan 2011 11:41pm

Who did you want to win???


Comments 124

Anonymous
  • 3rd Mar 2014 11:46pm

in all honesty i didn't vote for either of the major parties, if i had to choose i was hoping that we would end up with another hung parliament leaning slightly toward labor. But neither parties are appealing even now.

PARROT
  • 17th Feb 2014 09:38am

Abbot, the country could not have been able to afford another term of labour

sharksforlife17
  • 14th Feb 2014 10:46pm

Don't care

Dawney
  • 4th Oct 2013 11:42pm

Tony Abbot Give liberals a go

Tash001
  • 28th Sep 2013 01:26pm

Well our choices aren't really all that flash. A party that can't decide who it's leader is and who has factions within factions who want different things or a party lead by a sexist, racist, religious pig.

xo
  • 13th Aug 2013 12:16am

abott

tibi
  • 25th Jun 2013 02:38pm

I don't think we can afford anymore of Gillard lies and class wars ,dividing the country

redundant
  • 19th Jun 2013 06:08pm

I would Gillard to retain power but I see little hope. There has been a definite hated of a woman leader over the last 3 years but she hasn't helped matters through accepting poor advice from her media managers. Abbott would do or say anything to achieve power. Maybe a handover to Rudd would avoid a complete wipeout.

ned
  • 14th Jun 2013 09:30pm

I think they are both useless , Tony is love with julia

raul
  • 21st May 2013 07:03pm

The best result would be for a Liberal minority government with the balance of power in Independents hands. Gillard and Abbott are of the same ilk. Neither is worthy of leadership.

Anonymous
  • 19th May 2013 11:32pm

Gillard has had her run in office. Its not impressive. I would give Tony a chance.

marlu
  • 19th May 2013 04:34pm

There is not much choice between them. Labour has squandered all our money on things that have been wasted such as the laptops. They claimed the lap tops would be free to all students.That was a con.Parents still had to pay for the use of the lap tops ,They would break down and be totally useless.The majority of students opted tp take their own. Now they have slashed university funding They are too quick to make decision. After listening the Budget Reply speech of Abbott I am wondering what he is hiding.He had no polcies in place .The Disabilty scheme is the only thing for me in favour of the Labour Government,My jope is that there will be a protest vote against both sides so that they know the connunity wants something better.

gadgetgeek
  • 30th Apr 2013 08:11pm

Neither. They are both arrogant, careerists only interested in their own job progressions and super payout when they retire. Julia has lost touch with the people and Tony Abbott never had touch or contact. He totally puts his foot in it as a potential leader like when he said shit happens re someone dying (again) in Afghanastan. He has made SO MANY blunders and all this rubbish about saying sometimes he will say the truth and sometimes he won't. How can we trust him and he changes his mind all the time to fit the electorate. He also is LAZY not reading major reports before commenting or critiquing them! Saying he was too busy. In other words as a politician he fails to get his facts right before launching vicious attacks, often personal on his opponents. He showed his true colours when he used tax payer money to try and imprison the One Party member Pauline Hansen. Incidentally he is currently being correctly sued for this, since he misappropriated tax payer money. He and Howard did the same when they they used taxpayer money to run a slogan against labor. As for the election when he tried to bribe the independents. Tony Abbott would stop at nothing to gain office and his followers even made death threats to independents and other national party members. Neither Gillard or Abbott are fit to govern this country. We need a new option and I can't believe I am saying this but its Clive Palmer, the mining magnate who will know what business needs in this sagging economy and lack of new ideas governance ...and hopefully be a better leader than either TA or JG have shown in their pitiful lack of leadership in the past year or so. That is why Australia is not doing so well in the wake of the end of the mining boom, squandered revenue and opportunity and not enough major infrastructure investment and vision which this country needs so badly

android#73
  • 29th Apr 2013 12:09am

Abbott not ideal as some people just don't like him(unfairly targeted for wearing Speedo's)but I would take almost anybody over Gillard as she has proven to be all about herself.Also,I'll always have a problem with her method of stealing power from an elected P.M,& after she backstabbed K.Rudd she could've at least did a better job than him after discredited him as hopeless.No,anyone but Gillard for me.

senorita
  • 18th Apr 2013 06:09pm

They both are not good in their future policies. But looking at Gillard tactics and cruel motives to oust Kevin Rudd, I do not think she would win my votes. A person with the cruel motives does not have good heart. For sure, Gillard should not win a 3rd election as PM

Mp
  • 9th Apr 2013 06:53pm

Reading through the comments I can see why Australia is in such big trouble, do you wonder who will be paying back the $230 Billion Australia is in debt, China will own us at this rate.

If you don't care well just keep our borders down and see who you end up with and it won't matter who will be in charge we are self destructing with the help of people who think it is all a big joke!

Abbott, spelt correctly is a Road Scholar Gillard is a Communist/ Socialist. try living in Russia, North Korea or China see how you go there

Ian
  • 8th Apr 2013 03:59pm

Give me Abbott any day. Who wouldn't want an economic literate Rhodes Scholar with a great track record as a Minister and a proven record of community service over a broken down lying union lawyer intent on looking after the union mates.

Swan and Gillard just don't get that their tax revenue is falling because the economy (apart from Mining which they are doing everything they can to bugger up) has stalled. Having wasted the Costello/Howard inheritance they are now intent on gutting the Keating Superannuation system.

So it suits their communist attitude to have us all back on the pension reliant on the state rather than providing for our own future.

Call an election now and get a real government who governs for all the people in Canberra instead of this disunited mob of no hopers.

s
  • 27th Mar 2013 09:57pm

Gillard as Tony abbott said on the Bolt Report last week that he said over 20,000 people will lose their jobs when he gets elected or as he says "we don't need them" direct quote from Tony Abbott bolt report sunday 24th march 2013.

Gillard is also increasing the percentage employers will have to pay their employees and some people will end up being $250,000 better off with their super under Gillard.

Carbon Tax if we did not have it now we would in the future. It is to help climate change and introduce renewable energy for the future. Other countries have it as well. Things change over time and we have to live with change. And not get upset and hate the person if they said one thing and a year or two later they change their mind because things change in the world nothing stays the same.

Also this week the English newspapers online have been saying that we have a great economy and low unemployment. Why change it ??
Gillard and the Labor party worked hard to get us out of recession and they did!!! We are far from the problems that Europe is having.
So what we did not get a surplus not many countries in the world have one especially at the moment. I would rather we spent the money on Hospitals, and building the economy by giving Australian industries money which inturn will boost our economy.
Thankyou for reading my opinion from s

col001
  • 9th Apr 2013 09:46am
Gillard as Tony abbott said on the Bolt Report last week that he said over 20,000 people will lose their jobs when he gets elected or as he says "we don't need them" direct quote from Tony Abbott...

Look around us, thousands of jobs are lost each week, yet under Labor, both state and federally, unemployment levels have remained stable, why? The answer, give them a job in the public service and let the tax payers pay for these companies sacking staff.

In Queensland, Newman sacked 14,000 staff. One of the complaints from labor and the unions were the number of coffee shops forced to close. So what are they telling us, public servants spend too much time in coffee shops. You can say what you like, but why should I pay taxes for someone to spend 30% of their working life in a coffee shop.

I agree with you "s", 20,000 jobs will go in Canberra, but they are surplus and bludging off tax payers. Gillard has already been told by her own people the federal public service is 20,000 too heavy. That story is old hat.

The 3% increase in super guarantee levy was to keep the unions happy after Gillard promised a 1% reduction in company tax. The tax reduction is now not happening, but the 3% still is. So personally I don't think it is a smart economic move, but you are right, more retirement money in the pocket for workers. It may just tip them over into the $2 million asset accumulation and or $100k annual pension where they face a 15% tax on the excess.

The carbon tax Gillard introduced was nothing more than a backdoor tax on you and I. It's doing nothing for the environment. And the government's own web sites were showing a reduction of power usage, prior to the introduction of the carbon tax via installing solar energy devices etc. So why remove rebates on installing solar panels and introduce a carbon tax to achieve the same objective. I guess rebates cost money, carbon tax makes money.

We do have a great economy, compared to other countries, but if another GFC like event hit tomorrow our economy would fall to pieces because we have no reserves and our productivity growth is rather low compared to other countries. Our low unemployment levels are manufactured, as outlined in my first paragraph. And that is one of the reasons why our economy looks so good to others, people can't see what is really happening.

You are right, not many countries have a surplus, but are in a better position to fight off another GFC like incident, because their productivity levels give them the advantage to grow their economy much quicker than us.

As far as Gillard and Labor working hard to keep us out of a recession, they literally bought us out by spending not only our surplus, but billions more on top of that. All they bought was to avoid 3 consecutive months of negative growth and hence an "official" recession. Everything else that relates to a recession, we have been feeling, and still are.

Notice how governments have stopped talking about spending, and talk about saving. We don't have the extra money to spend on hospitals etc. Also Holden have sacked some 500 workers, and have not ruled out others. This is after the government gave them a grant, which I should point out was quickly snapped up by the unions in wage increases for workers anyway.

We not be having the problems that face some European countries, but Europe can still bring us down.

jamatock
  • 27th Mar 2013 04:32pm

a political party with a majority not a hung parliament that makes the country held to ransom by 2/3 independents

s
  • 24th Mar 2013 04:14pm

Gillard Labor Party without them we would not have the high speed Boardband network. Disability insurance. Pension payrises. Things change other countries have carbon taxes. If we did not have it now we would in the near future. To help climate change at least we are doing something about it!!!
And a good economy that English newspapers online are raving about.
They saved us from going through what Europe is going through now.

Tony Abbott said today on the Bolt Report that if he gets to be the Prime Minister over 20,000 people will lose their jobs "because we don't need them"
To keep your job vote Labor!!!! And keep the country's reputation overseas in England. And faster broadband! More money for education!

Anonymous
  • 20th Mar 2013 11:37am

My God wake up Australians, Both Parties are nothing more than ( Lying, Self Serving, Hypocritical, Puppets of the New World Order ) Wake up to this Evil research yourself the New World Order & Agenda 21 it's their Blueprint for World government & Australia is not exempt!!! Remember Australia is not a Democracy it's a Police State that's Run & Controlled by VERY Powerful Overseas Interests!! Give both parties the flick & vote for a Party that's not Bought & Paid for!! Wake up Aussies you are Sleepwalking into your own Enslavement. Stop watching TV & reading news papers they are all Controlled Propaganda to dumb you down with Lies & dis info!!! Use the internet for the truth of what's REALLY going on in the world today before the y Censor it just like the Chinese Model too many People are waking up to the LIES & Lies & LIES !!!

Emma333
  • 26th Feb 2013 08:59pm

I don't agree with either of them. I'm proud of Julia for becoming the first female PM, but because of her, when I get older I have to pay a carbon tax and might have to pay a mining tax as well. And her views on gay marriage annoy me LOVE IS LOVE. People can't help the way they feel, its chemicals in their brain. I'm not gay but I know a few people who are and what happens when they want to get married and make a connection like that with someone they love just like I can? I'd like to see what Abott does mainly because Politian's change when they are elected mainly to fuck everyone over

s
  • 7th Feb 2013 06:02pm

Julia Gillard please! Their government has got through the most reforms of any party in Australian history. They have real policy's that they will tell you about when asked. The Labor party discusses real issues in the parliament while the Liberal party just wants to put down the people in the Labor party and criterise them and bully them that seems to be what the Liberal party is always doing. To me Tony Abbott acts like a teenager.
And Tony Abbott has said out of his own mouth that if he becomes prime minister he will sack 14,000 people from the public service. I saw him say this to the media.
Look what has happened in Queensland with the Liberal party sacking workers that is how the party works to save money but ruins the economy.
If the Labor party did not introduce the Carbon tax I believe it would have been introduced in the next 10 years anyway. Good on the Labor party for taking a stand.
I used to always vote Liberal up until the last election or two ago because my cousin was a state Liberal MP in another state.

sheza54
  • 25th Oct 2012 10:30am

I just wish we could go to the polls now, and vote for someone who is going to do good for our country and not lie about it.

19chris51
  • 25th Oct 2012 08:41pm
I just wish we could go to the polls now, and vote for someone who is going to do good for our country and not lie about it.

sheza you are very right, un fortunitly , THEY ALL LIE

Anonymous
  • 15th Oct 2012 08:12am

an australian male would be embarrased having her as a prime minister
an australian female would be ashamed

19chris51
  • 25th Oct 2012 08:39pm
I just wish we could go to the polls now, and vote for someone who is going to do good for our country and not lie about it.

Walter, Walter,Walter, my goodness, you represent ALL the Australian Males???I don`t think so!!!
And guess what THIS FEMALE, and a hell of a lot more are not embarrased, This female is a senior citizen, not new to the election game, so please do not include us in your ramblings..........and do Not say what we would be or not................. Thankyou

bj
  • 15th Oct 2012 07:18am

We have limited choices. Abbott is a NO! K Rudd is a has been. Julia is a surviver,
strong willed and mostly fair. But dont forget each have their fav backers
whose ideas are part of it all too.

rosie
  • 11th Oct 2012 12:47pm

go tony mate, gillard to be honest is in over her head

Jenny
  • 6th Oct 2012 07:46pm

I too do not like Tony Abbott - how long is it going to take the Liberal Party to realize that he is so disliked. He speaks like he learns it parrot fashion, written by someone else. because he is lost when he has to speak off the cuff. Imagine him representing our Country. OMG. He is now saying his wife can speak for him as long as she likes, whoopee.

PukPuk
  • 6th Oct 2012 01:15pm

I do not really care which one wins or if neither win. For the good of the country we need someone at the helm who knows that just printing more money is not a longer term solution nor is taking out the equivalent of a Harvey Norman 5 year interest and payment free term (we are talking several billions) so it hits us a few years down the track long after the current clowns have left with their pollys super cash and perks.

cutiebeautie
  • 5th Oct 2012 10:43pm

I'm so suprised that so many of you do not care about our economy. i came from dark communist country and what I see in my beautiful Australia? Whenever Labor is in charge we going down the hill very quickly. THEY care only for their own pockets. I remeber this same under communist goverment. Wake up Australia. Start to love your wonderful FATHERLAND ! I love you Australia and I am greatfull for ever to let me to come here.

Anonymous
  • 5th Oct 2012 10:07pm

Julia Gillard is a very gutsy woman she has had so much vitriol aimed at her and yet she carries on doing her job with so much aplomb,the labor govt have achieved a lot since she became P.M. and she will last her term,if Tony Abbot becomes P.M.
I imagine it will be very short term Malcolm is in the wings waiting!!!
re Qld govt surely with only 7 opposition seats this is no longer a democracy !!

smily
  • 4th Oct 2012 11:39pm

Abott because Julia only seems concerned with Julia

pants
  • 2nd Apr 2012 11:14am

abbott

flyingace
  • 31st Mar 2012 11:50pm

hi Chubbz170, I don't what either one to win the next election.

19chris51
  • 31st Mar 2012 09:49pm

Julia Gillard is a very articulate speaker, a very well educated WOMAN, for goodness sake why don`t people lisiten to the Parliamentry Debates, then tell people why you would vote for that MORAN abbott.

Anonymous
  • 19th Mar 2012 02:45pm

Neither! I do not vote anymore and havn't done so for years now. I believe we all have a moral obligation to stand up to unjust laws, our government is an unjust, unfair, untrustworthy system and i can not bring myself to go along with or take any part in it. To be perfectly honest, if i did, i would not be able to sleep at night.

Nefertari
  • 18th Mar 2012 02:40pm

Neither of them...Julia Gillard was not voted in by the people in the first place and Tony Abbott is not a very good alternative. If Kevin Rudd was still in office I would have voted for him but the Unions have had their way and kicked him out. So I guess what the people want does not matter at all!

Anonymous
  • 23rd Feb 2012 05:41pm

The day Tony Abbott has a thought of his own beneficial to Australia, I think the heavens will open and it flood big time. That man couldn't find poo in a sewerage factory if someone else didn't tell him it was there.

Anonymous
  • 23rd Feb 2012 05:00pm

Gillard hands down - she's the strongest most reslient prime minister we've ever had - no one else has ever had to operate in such a hostile environment, and been so effective at passing and implementing sound, long-term economic and environmental and social policy reform

wazza1
  • 22nd Feb 2012 04:46pm

gillard i do not like abott

Bigfoot
  • 8th Feb 2012 04:43pm

Both Gillard and Abbott are really rs as far as leadership goes. I think that if the Liberals want a leader who may be reasonably good, then they should look no further than Hocking. If the Labour party don't want to lose the 2013 election then Kevin Rudd is a reasonable leader but too many of his party won't have him so he would be backstabbed again at some time. This leaves Gillard to stay as leader but the election will definitely be lost.

Anonymous
  • 8th Feb 2012 12:25pm

Neither are any good for the change that Australia needs.

These leaders are not in good cause with the youth of Australia and they
are not in correlation with the thinking of the 21st century.

Sure internet mobile and wham bam but there is more to human beings than this.

Anonymous
  • 15th Jan 2012 08:12pm

does not matter, would not trust politicians as far as i could throw a ball

sherri
  • 4th Dec 2011 02:09pm

I am just relieved that we have passed any danger of having an Abbot - Costello (lib) government!

Would have been hard to take anything seriously in such circs!

Not a real fan of the Ranga - particularly considering that she came in via the back door thanks to a hatchet job done in the back -room. ...but there WERE problems re her predecessor....but still not a fan of political 'assassination'.

Abbott? - can't come at that - even as a least worst option!

Can I vote for the donkey?

kim77
  • 21st Nov 2011 03:18pm

abott, i am consistantly imbarrassed by Gillard everytime she opens her mouth on tv i hope that no one from overseas is watching.

joe kool
  • 14th Sep 2011 11:04am

abbott of course no carbon tax/nauru solution -- and he doesnt lie to get elected

mokon
  • 2nd Sep 2011 03:14am

Don't mind Gillard but Abbott is a bit crazy and creepy.

flyingace
  • 30th Aug 2011 10:51pm

I want abott to win

flyingace
  • 29th Aug 2011 04:29pm

Julia gillar will not win

19chris51
  • 31st Mar 2012 09:43pm
Julia gillar will not win

This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules.

errolsyd
  • 30th Aug 2011 10:37pm
Julia gillar will not win

I agree, I want to know where the 23% of people who would vote for greens/julia have been living since the election ? Have they never read the news or seen TV ? or do they believe it is a Murdoch conspiracy to decieve the Australian public? Abbot is maybe not the best choice but he and the Libs have to be at least 50% better then the party led by an atheist and a homo and thet will be a great improvement.

mistymae53
  • 24th Aug 2011 03:37pm

I can honestly say "Lordy! Lordy! What a choice, but in spite of that, I didn't vote for Julia, I never would have voted for her, and MR Abbott, yeah well! In spite of that, Tony would have gotten my vote, but I would have been nervous, VERY NERVOUS!

Anonymous
  • 15th Aug 2011 12:57pm

gillard

Anonymous
  • 21st Jul 2011 05:33pm

gillard

deb
  • 13th Jun 2011 10:32am

I have to agree with most of what is being stated. Neither seems to be very good contenders for running this country. When writing to govt they always seem to treat me very glib and want to get rid of me as quickly as possible. I feel that I am not being treated like an Australian citizen who has voted democratically.

But what I really dispise is the so called academic and experts who fail a majority of times to become involved in any political debate for the good of the country. They're are no heavy weights out there who actually speak on behalf of the public when it comes to stating good advice based on solid research and global knowledge in debating current topics in media. Why is this!!! Other countries have these so called experts and academics who will become involved for the good of their country. IS IT FUNDING PROBLEMS!!! OR THE THREAT OF THE REMOVAL OF FUNDING!!!

marty
  • 13th May 2011 12:40pm

If we were living in somewhere like France there would be millions of people on the streets protesting about how this wonderful country is being destroyed by incompentant politicians. We have almost come through the GFC much better than most other countries but we now have a default government who wants to introduce a carbon tax which will be useless as they are increasing their flights everywhere over the world, what ever happened to this wonderful thing called the "Internet" we can talk to family & friends overseas & login to international conferencing so why do they need to fly to these. It's for all the 5 star treatment they get (on us) & now they have done the deal of the century by sending 800 peolpe to Indonesea & we will take in 4000 & they will recieve better government benifits than the people who have fought to keep this country free & who have worked hard to build this country. Yes i was a union delegate & at one stage got an offer to join the Labour party to study at Clyde Cameron Colledge but i believed that helping my fellow Australians without putting my hand in their wallet like the old time Politicians who gave & didn't expect anything in return. It wont be long until China own's us anyway.
Marty.

Ash
  • 6th May 2011 04:32pm

Neither Abbot nor Ju liar...... does not matter who becomes PM there are other people pulling the string behind the scene.

dint
  • 6th May 2011 12:34pm

did someone win?

seesaw
  • 6th May 2011 10:50am

Mr Abott,I feel he would be a better PM of Australia.

mistymae53
  • 28th Feb 2011 01:16am

I don't like Abbott, but if I have to vote again I will vote Abott in a heartbeat. Wouldn't think twice, I think he is an ethical person, and would make a responsible (if not particularly likeable) Prime Minister.

CAT17
  • 17th Feb 2011 10:57pm

Why Why Why do people prefer a PM who has made so many wasteful decsions since she came into government. Billions have been wasted not of government money but TAXPAYER'S money. This Labor government is the most inefficient, wasteful and pathetic group of Politicians I have ever seen in charge of the welfare of us. I have been around long enough to compare governments over quiet a few years. Aren't people worried about the amount of waste and blunders that have cost us (the taxpayers) so much. Julia Gillard is a true unionist and most of her front bench are ex union bosses. Great to have the unions pulling the strings and Julia jumping to their tune. Tony Abbot might have some faults (his personality is a little off at times) but I do think the Liberal party owe a lot to him and his style of leadership. The independents have a lot to answer to for allow this inefficient, incompetent party to govern this wonderful country of ours.

MICHAEL
  • 17th Feb 2011 08:57am

Tony Abbot has twenty times more experience and would make a twenty times better prime minister then Julia Gillard ever would - she just doesn;t understand but I suppose being Rudd's understudy naturally means she will have a lot of his bad habits. By god weren't they bad habits - thank god ahe at least got rid of him (partially !!!)

mistymae53
  • 28th Feb 2011 01:30am
Tony Abbot has twenty times more experience and would make a twenty times better prime minister then Julia Gillard ever would - she just doesn;t understand but I suppose being Rudd's understudy...

I agree with you Michael! Tony Abbott in my opinion would be a preferable Prime Minister to Julia Gillard. Julia Gillard appears very rigid in her demeanor, this may not be the way she is in her personal life, but in her role as Prime Minister she often projects herself as being aloof, and indifferent. Julia Gillard appears to show little genuine emotion. A Prime Minister has to be able to show leadership, as well as compassion and empathy in all sorts of situations. The Prime Minister may be a warm and caring person, but it is not the image she projects to the public, I think Abbott has more experience, and his demeanor is more compatable with a wider range of situations.

19chris51
  • 17th Feb 2011 05:52pm
Tony Abbot has twenty times more experience and would make a twenty times better prime minister then Julia Gillard ever would - she just doesn;t understand but I suppose being Rudd's understudy...

Are all abbots followers MORANS as well???, good to if they could spell (or pardon me) type properly,and get their information correct...!!!

Katie8
  • 15th Feb 2011 11:13pm

I wasn't sure about Julia Gillard (initially) but I think she is quite articulate and impressive. Complete morons are rare but I will make an exception in Tony Abbott's case! The guy is a mysogynistic, bible bashing hypocrit with a God complex. He's not as evil as Howard but his stupidity is just as dangerous. Gillard will get my vote over Abbott any day!

possum
  • 15th Feb 2011 09:22pm

I don't know either on a personal level therefore I cannot comment.
Both major parties have problems infighting, hidden agendas, personality issues self interest etc.
MP's are elected to esrve the best interests of the community not the best interest of the party.
Until they get back to the basics & do the job they were elected to do the country's STUFFED.

Graham
  • 15th Feb 2011 08:58pm

Thet're both Morons. Julia Gillard will go down in history as the most useless, pathetic, dumbarse ex-Prime Ministers.

I really don't think the Liberal party will keep Tony Abbott around much longer. They will have a new leader in the shape of Joe Hockey before long. I'm guessing he's the best of a bad bunch.

GG.

anna
  • 28th Aug 2011 08:48pm
Thet're both Morons. Julia Gillard will go down in history as the most useless, pathetic, dumbarse ex-Prime Ministers.

I really don't think the Liberal party will keep Tony Abbott around...

Good thinking there with Joe Hockey! Hell, what a mess we are in now! Who ever goes in next hope the greens & labour have gone on holiday to bobs house down south of tas near Antarctica.

Sammbo
  • 14th Feb 2011 11:55am

A drover's dog could have won the last election.

Thank God Abbot was around!

jatz50
  • 22nd Jan 2011 10:10pm

I didn't want either of them.....I want another choice lol

19chris51
  • 16th Jan 2011 08:48pm

To be truthful, I don`t much think either is any good, but in preference Julia Gillard, abbot is a moron

skydancer12
  • 28th Jul 2013 11:49am
Hi Mp could not agree more. Why are we selling off our farm lands and food chain to communist China. I think the figure is on our sugar mills over 50% to China and a lot of our beef and sheep...

Having lived on a farm for the last thirteen years- leaving only to care fot my elderly mum, I can honestly say they want Liberals back in power! Labor is decimating our economy and our great Country. Rudd is a bed fellow to the Indonesians/Asians and while I agree with free trade we have lost much of our trade, with factories closing, companies going off shore, I'm tired of ringing"Australian" companies only for the operator to tell me they are communicating from Manilla, Pakistan, etc:. We have good people here but the need jobs, and not just white collar workers. Have you tried to get a tradie to do a small job, I have, they can't be bothered; it isn't worth their while.
The NBN is a waste of tax payer money as were many of Labor' plans, the pink batts, power saving boards etc: the smart meter is just another 'big brother' and why did Labor use and lose our previous Liberal accumulated surplus and run us so far in the red we are now a laugh to other countries.
All of Labors inquiries and reports, what good came of them except to make the investigators wealthy.
Farmers are putting their cattle/sheep down rather than accepting a pittance for their hard work. Produce farmers are pouring their crops back into the ground because of the import 'glut'. Gi9ve us a government that will govern for Australians and not pander to other countries just to be popular!

skydancer12
  • 28th Jul 2013 11:25am
Hospitals were a state responsibility, not federal. However now 40%/60% federal/state, under this current administration. And actually funding levels are now down.

You may also note that...

I laugh at how Gillard stabbed Rudd in the back and then only after allowing her to decimate this country Labor reinstated Rudd, this time though the people had no say in it. Tony Abbott may not be the most personable man around but I believe he has the credentials and the 'ticker' to put this country back in the black. Politics though is such a fickle thing. Promise the people what they want (without intention to keep the promise) they'll vote for you; give the people what they need, well, they'll revile you. Abbott did his apprentice-ship during the Howard/Costello years and thus had two of the greatest/most successful politicians we've seen. I just hope Abbott is able to improve our hospitals, aged care, transport and education- but it will take time. I believe Politicians are little more than "glorified Public Servants".

Trushka
  • 27th Jun 2013 06:13pm
To be truthful, I don`t much think either is any good, but in preference Julia Gillard, abbot is a moron

I agree - Labour's the better of two evils. But what about a coalition of minor parities and independents for a while to give us all a breather? Katter's Australia Party; Clive Palmer' PUP party?Someone recently did not hold out much hope for a 'pup' - thought it would be for donkey voters. But pups grow up very quickly. What will this PUP grow up to be - a poodle, a bloodhound, or what do you think?

CAT17
  • 23rd Jun 2013 07:02pm
I don't get your comment about Q&A. And yes I have seen it. You are making assumptions "s" How often has Gillard appeared on Q&A, I can't recall any. You say a Labor rep said Abbott was aggressive,...

I would have replied to you sooner if I had known there was someone that actually has something worthwhile to say. The trouble with what is going on out there in 'votersland' is there are too many people who vote for personalities. They say things like they hate Tony Abbott because he wears budgee smugglers? What is that??? This man actually does some pretty amazing stuff wearing his swimmers (not to mention raises great sums of money).
The youth of this country are too much like members of the debating team at uni and only seem to focus on things that do not actually bebefit the rest of us. Maybe we should not have compulsory voting, voters would vote because they want to elect a political party they truly believe will make a difference.
This Gillard government stinks, their wasteful spending of money on their socialist/ big brother policies have done nothing much for most of us. Pensioners, the disabled, the sick and the homeless have still not received any REAL help financially or otherwise and could have bebefitted so much if only money had been allocated to those areas rather than school halls, pink bats, NBN and education revolutions?? Not to mention the asylum seekers debarckle.
Come on September and lets have a government that firstly we voted for and secondly one that just has to do a better job than this lot.
We tried the' being governed by the Union Bosses thing', lets get back to real government that win the election fairly and without deals being made behind closed doors.
My husband and I are at the stage of our lives where we need to feel secure and feel as if the government of this GREAT country is doing right by US ALL..

marlu
  • 19th May 2013 04:38pm
Hee here 19chris - I would have to agree. I don't have any prefs either way for any politcal party, their leaders etc., but honestly Abbot is a totally waste of time!!
All he seems to want to...

What there needs to be a protest vote agains both of them to let them know that we are not happy with dither of them.

col001
  • 18th Apr 2013 10:00am
Igot the Liberal broadband policy from Tony Abbott and Turnbull on the news telling us about their policy for it. Also from the 7.30 report with Turnbull talking about his party's policy on...

Well m , It's either your assessment of the Coalitions NBN policy is wrong, or you misunderstood what they said because your comment just doesn't add up. Secondly the ABC is government funded and while those on the left criticise the Murdock press as anti Labor, those on the right think the same about the ABC, particularly the 7.30 report. Also Clarke and Doyle are comedians and present a satirical view of the weeks events, and politicians are fair game. You can't take them seriously. Who comes off seconded best in the battle of the health ministers on the upcoming Q&A is one of perception.

By the way, if that appearance by Gillard on Q&A was last year and we know a lot of water has passed under the bridge since then, why has Gillard, and Labor's approval slumped in the polls. Could it be her explanations weren't clear and policies not working the way she said they would. Being able to answer question, is about confidence, all politicians answer questions. doesn't mean to say they are always right. Our job is to determine whether the confidence is credibility or simply incompetence. You made your decision, so good luck to you.

You mentioned Centerlink and Medicare. I went into Centerlink just the other day, a fairly large coastal office with unemployment above the national average. Seven people were waiting for an interview with centerlink and just me for Medicare. There was no line up out the door. They had a officer, I would assume a senior officer as he was there 20 years ago, greeting everyone as they entered the building, directing them to a seated waiting area. I can't buy into that statement.

As I said under Labor, the public service became a sink hole for the unemployed. Private business in Australia have been shedding staff, closing down or moving operation off shore on a regular bases, yet unemployment figures have remained fairly static over the last 10 years. Why? Our manufacturing industry is albeit non existent, retail is floundering and tourism in in a slump. The mining industry is slowing and our population has increased over the past several years. Doesn't add up.

The broadband. The Coalitions policy is the FTTN, you have the choice to continue the fibre to your premises, replacing the copper immediately if you wish. You pay the additional cost. Scary isn't it, well it's not because I am sure there will be payment plans available. The bottom line, you get your 100mbps immediately, the same as the FTTP policy of Labor. Difference is you own the fibre connection, not the government. The only exception being rented properties where the landlord has to foot the bill. You would need to negotiate a deal. But before you say anything, I believe many landlords would not come to the party anyway. But by the same token, under the FTTP, where no one has a choice, you may see a rents increase because it's deemed an improvement. I know some landlords have agreed to install solar panels following negotiations with tenants.

Under both policies, you only need to put fibre in once, it all comes down to how you want it paid for. Under both policies you still need to negotiate with a service provider to arrange connection. As you are aware the NBN is "off budget", paid for by government bonds, irrespective which policy is adopted. Bonds attract an interest rate and eventually mature. Repayment of this interest and matured bonds will come from monthly usage fees, paid by those connecting to the NBN as rollout continues, and when it concludes. Your monthly charge will be determined by the capital raised, and that covers both policies. At the moment Labor are saying the rate of uptake is just a tick over 40%. I think they would have been hoping for 80%, but that's another story.

Under the FTTP, the connection from the node to premises is owned by the government. Your monthly usage charge will reflect this. The FTTN, you pay for the connection from node to premises yourself whether on a time plan or not, but you own it yourself. Less cost to the government meaning less capital needed to be raised through government bonds. Suffice to say you could expect you monthly usage charges to be less. And those that have already been connected by the government may find themselves paying a higher monthly charge than those that pay for it themselves. It could be called line rental like in your land line bills. Just something you may also not be aware off, I live on an acreage and the cost of fibre to my premises will cost say $7k, while your connection is only $2k, you are actually subsidising my connection under the FTTP. The bottom line however, there is not much difference between both policies, just who puts their hand in their pocket first.

First of all, who you vote for is your business. You political beliefs are in your writings, just like mine. Many people voted for Rudd in 2007, because he was a man with charisma. Gillard, first woman PM, who knows, who cares. Maybe voters thought she had a bit of Margaret Thatcher in her, except Thatcher was conservative. I also know MP's from both sides of politics, and they are aware of my political beliefs. Doesn't change what we do, we all bleed red blood. You just stick to your convictions.





s
  • 17th Apr 2013 06:11pm
I don't get your comment about Q&A. And yes I have seen it. You are making assumptions "s" How often has Gillard appeared on Q&A, I can't recall any. You say a Labor rep said Abbott was aggressive,...

Igot the Liberal broadband policy from Tony Abbott and Turnbull on the news telling us about their policy for it. Also from the 7.30 report with Turnbull talking about his party's policy on broadband.
This policy has already been made fun of on clarke and doyle on channel 2.
Julia was on Q & A last year we watched it and she was really good answered everyone's questions and she explained everything we still talk about how good it was.
Next monday night on Q & A the Health ministers for both Liberal and Labor will be on to discuss their policies. You watch the Liberal party will come out worse off they do on this show every time it is polically based.
I do not think we are 20,000 people over in the public sector ever walked past the queue's and people waiting at centrelink and medicare which I have seen on many occasions out the door.
I have to disagree with you about the broadband I want faster broadband or want is the point if it is not faster. I want faster broadband for study, work and business and personal use. And I only want it put in once not upgraded in a couple of years time what a waste of time and money.
Don't get me wrong as they say, I did support the Liberals for most of my life until the about 2 elections ago and that is because I have a relative who was a Liberal politican in state politics in the 1970's.

col001
  • 17th Apr 2013 09:06am
Ever watched Q&A the liberal rep on the show also comes out worse than the Labor Government. Tony Abbott has been invited on the show many times Q&A have said this on numerous shows but his media...

I don't get your comment about Q&A. And yes I have seen it. You are making assumptions "s" How often has Gillard appeared on Q&A, I can't recall any. You say a Labor rep said Abbott was aggressive, really, what do you think they were going to say. As for rude and nasty, you should have heard Labor when they were in opposition. And Gillard's "personal" attack on Abbott falls into that category. As for arrogance, Labor have dibs on that one, you do it my way, or no way.

And that leads me to the broadband. We currently experience 4 to 5 mbps, the Coalition policy as it stands will offer 25 mbps. Labor's plan offers 100 mbps. I don't know where you got that from. Difference is under the coalition's plan you have a choice, if you want 100 mbps you can install fibre right to your premises. The cost they say is between $2k and $7k, and comes out of your pocket. It will also be a public, private partnership (PPP). Under Labor, Australia will be the only democratic country in he world to have a government monopolised internet service because they will "initially" pay for the connection to your home and copper will be de-commissioned. If you want the net you will pay what the government says, and that could be anything they want. That's arrogance. Technology changes very quickly, and in 10 years time, who knows where we will be. You mentioned Germany, are you aware they are proposing a similar broadband rollout as the Coalition.

Saving money. A recent survey showed only a tick over 40% of eligible properties have connected fibre to premises. Why is this the case, if it's so good. Saving money could well be part of it. Further more Labor have the NDIS and schools program, still largely unfunded. $20 billion would surely put a dint in that. However your comment is saying why save money just to help educate our kids and help our disabled when you can spend it on me so I can have a super fast broadband.

But since you asked, yes I would vote for the Coalition's plan, and I've been around for a long time. In fact if you ask me, I'd say it's the children that want it more, because by the time I can connect I will be in my 70's, and won't need it. But than the option of choice is there if I want it. At present it's an investment, not a necessity for ordinary consumers, and that's how it needs to be viewed. Investments are about choice, not a given. You see, I don't think this debut is about download speed as much as it is about who pays for it.

That's why I believe that it's the younger generation, they don't realise they will be paying for it for the rest of their lives. Government bonds attract interest and will mature sooner or later. Your repayments are factored into your monthly internet account, plus anything else the government may want, and I mean all governments. I am sure if you want a time plan to repay the cost of connection under the Coalition's plan, your service provider or bank could assist. At least you will know all you are paying for is the service, and it becomes an investment in your future.

I am not sure about your last paragraph because I don't know what China and Germany have to do with the LNP in Queensland. Queensland was $60 billion in debt, with the debt rising under Labor. Queensland lost it's AAA credit rating because Labor couldn't manufacture a surplus. Also under Labor, the public service became a sink hole for the unemployed. Sure 15,000 jobs were lost in Queensland, but they were seen as surplus to needs. And I am know everyone has their own opinion on that, and I am not going to argue because that's their right. But what got me is the unions and Labor crying fowl because many coffee shops, particularly in greater Brisbane were forced to close. If that's the case, you would deduce that PS are their main source of income and that they arguably spend 25% of their working life there, does that happen in the private sector. And yes, Gillard has already been told by her own people that the commonwealth PS is approximately 20,000 too heavy. Fortunately Abbott's not ruled by the unions, so will stand up to them and do what Gillard hasn't the guts to do, the same as what Newman did in Queensland.

s
  • 16th Apr 2013 01:46pm
Hospitals were a state responsibility, not federal. However now 40%/60% federal/state, under this current administration. And actually funding levels are now down.

You may also note that...

Ever watched Q&A the liberal rep on the show also comes out worse than the Labor Government. Tony Abbott has been invited on the show many times Q&A have said this on numerous shows but his media team will not let him. Q&A person said on Q&A it is because he cannot speak without putting his foot in it. I agree with this and many times I find it also rude and childish.
When he makes speeches to the media he never takes questions he just rudely walks off. Where as Julia takes Questions and says the media persons first name also.
And if he gets in in September I will be totally want to leave the country as the man cannot even speak properly and carries his liberal booklet around like a small child, and I find that watching parliament he is aggressive (also Quoted on Q&A last night by a Labor rep who is actually in the parliament question time). He is also rude, nasty, and very arrogant and this comes across at parliament question time.
Thankyou.
I laughed when he said his broadband connection is going to be 10 times slower and need replacing in the future. Who would vote for this alone!!!! Does he think the voters are children!!!
It is all about saving money what for?
The only countries not in debt are China and Germany. The Liberal party did the same in Queensland people lost their jobs to save the Liberal Goverment money the same thing will happen here he has (Tony Abbott) told us more than once over 20,000 jobs will go "we don't need them" Tony Abbott has said.

Mp
  • 9th Apr 2013 06:48pm
Hee here 19chris - I would have to agree. I don't have any prefs either way for any politcal party, their leaders etc., but honestly Abbot is a totally waste of time!!
All he seems to want to...

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  • 9th Apr 2013 06:02pm
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col001
  • 9th Apr 2013 08:51am
I totally agree with you on this, EVERYTHING, people think that the economy was better before, they say Howard gov was about 20million credit, but oh how our systems ran down in that period eg...

Hospitals were a state responsibility, not federal. However now 40%/60% federal/state, under this current administration. And actually funding levels are now down.

You may also note that many states were government by Labor administrations during the Howard years. That's why every government in the country is running a deficit. That may also explain why many systems have been allowed to run down.

The function of the federal government is to be in a position to support the states, this Labor government is not in that position. Bit like the old USSR telling it satellite states that it was broke and they must fend for themselves, as a consequence the Soviet block broke up. This is pretty much what the Gillard government is telling our state and territory governments right now.

And in saying that, the Gillard government has to go, and Abbott will be the leader of the coalition, and PM come September. He will get my vote.

s
  • 27th Mar 2013 10:17pm
I totally agree. If they don't get smart and bring back Rudd, they are gonna lose the next election, and they'll have no one to blame but themselves. It was insulting how they ousted him, and...

He walks around with his daughter in front of the cameras to make out he is a family man. It does not work with me. He only has two women in his cabinet is that saying something?

He does not do interviews for long as he cannot speak without putting his foot in it. He also does not take questions from the media he just walks away from them. To me if he gets in to be PM in September I feel like leaving the country I will be so embarrased as he cannot even speak well!!
And also it has been said a few weeks ago in parliament the Liberal party signed in people to the parliamentry gallery to heckle Gillard which they did that is going too far!!!

Tony abbott just about every time you see him now he is holding his Liberal party booklet just like a child with a favourite book!!! I agree he is creepy.

Kevin Rudd will not compete in a party spill it is his choice, the media hopefully will now leave it at that.
Why do people want Rudd back? Is it because Gillard is a woman?
I find she is stronger than Rudd anyone agree? Just watch Parliament if you can. The other day on the news they showed her saying to Abbott "come on have a go now" because he always does. She stands up to him would Rudd do it as strongly as she does I do not think he would.

jamatock
  • 25th Oct 2012 11:41am
I totally agree with you on this, EVERYTHING, people think that the economy was better before, they say Howard gov was about 20million credit, but oh how our systems ran down in that period eg...

Not much better now only country $144 billion in debit not $20 billion in credit

Stekel
  • 15th Oct 2012 12:19pm
o G.S.T. under John Howard either.......................................Marvelous how we all forget.......... they ALL LIE.............. on saying that, Abbot is a moron.... bring in Malcom Turnbull

They do all Lie but I believ e that Malcom Turnbull would lie less than all the others I am normally a Labor voter but bring on Malcolm Turnbull and I will vote for him.

errolsyd
  • 13th Oct 2012 09:28pm
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Hi Mp could not agree more. Why are we selling off our farm lands and food chain to communist China. I think the figure is on our sugar mills over 50% to China and a lot of our beef and sheep stations let alone now Cubby station .
Why allow communist China a foothold in Australia when we cannot buy one inch of land in China.

errolsyd
  • 13th Oct 2012 09:22pm
o G.S.T. under John Howard either.......................................Marvelous how we all forget.......... they ALL LIE.............. on saying that, Abbot is a moron.... bring in Malcom Turnbull

John Howard announced before the election he was going to bring in the GST and was still elected. Check YOUR memory!
RUDD you must be joking , pink batts , ILLEGAL BOAT people opened the flood gates.etc. Sept 32 boats = 2209 ILLEGALS OCT 12 boats in 12 days = 792
ILLEGALS. Labor and the greens are distroying Australia. Now we sell Cubby station off to communist China what a joke. But not funny.

19chris51
  • 12th Oct 2012 05:16pm
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19chris51
  • 12th Oct 2012 05:08pm
Proteus any thing is better than the queer and the athiest that are currently running this country into the ground. Name one good thing they have done and I'll give you 3 that they have stuffed up!...

o G.S.T. under John Howard either.......................................Marvelous how we all forget.......... they ALL LIE.............. on saying that, Abbot is a moron.... bring in Malcom Turnbull

Anonymous
  • 11th Oct 2012 09:45pm
To be truthful, I don`t much think either is any good, but in preference Julia Gillard, abbot is a moron

gillard most definently... gillard in my view is what australia needs. i was watching the government in parliament the other day, and julia seems to out whit abbott on every front.. i mean the way that politics has played out lately, you would think that the opposition were acting like pre - schoolers in the playground... we need to have some one that we can rely on, to run the country, not disagree with everything that the current labour party is offering in policies.. i mean... seriously.... i don't think abbot has delivered any policies... at least labour is trying to put policies forth... we must remember that the liberals are no longer in commmand... although they think they are.. they served 11 years before labour... and i think 11 years was far too long in my view...

nanrho
  • 10th Oct 2012 09:35pm
Abbott may be a moron but he doesnt LIE to public " there will be no Carbon tax under a Government i Lead also she broke a contract with the independant re Poker Machines.

So i will vote...

Abbot is a moron,my preference is Julia and ALL politicians LIE to the public, If Abbot gets to be prime minister we would be the laughing stock of the world

Mp
  • 31st Mar 2012 07:47pm
I will also say that what happened to electing people we want............ I am really kind of nutral most of the time, but I did like Kevin Rudd, the lador party corkus had to get rid of him... not...

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Mp
  • 31st Mar 2012 07:43pm
Hee here 19chris - I would have to agree. I don't have any prefs either way for any politcal party, their leaders etc., but honestly Abbot is a totally waste of time!!
All he seems to want to...

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joe kool
  • 16th Mar 2012 09:20pm
To be truthful, I don`t much think either is any good, but in preference Julia Gillard, abbot is a moron

Abbott may be a moron but he doesnt LIE to public " there will be no Carbon tax under a Government i Lead also she broke a contract with the independant re Poker Machines.

So i will vote for LIBRELS

wazza1
  • 22nd Feb 2012 04:49pm
Hee here 19chris - I would have to agree. I don't have any prefs either way for any politcal party, their leaders etc., but honestly Abbot is a totally waste of time!!
All he seems to want to...

there only there to line there own poketts not help the poor

wazza1
  • 22nd Feb 2012 04:47pm
To be truthful, I don`t much think either is any good, but in preference Julia Gillard, abbot is a moron

i agree

sherri
  • 15th Dec 2011 02:43pm
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hehehe! - tongue very firmly in cheek!

paradox
  • 15th Dec 2011 01:59pm
-Oh - and goodonya for pitching in and helping.

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sherri
  • 15th Dec 2011 01:25pm
hehee - ...let me see if I have this right....you were in Darwin for Tracy....and QLD for the floods....hmmm! (lol) ;)

-Oh - and goodonya for pitching in and helping.

sherri
  • 15th Dec 2011 01:24pm
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hehee - ...let me see if I have this right....you were in Darwin for Tracy....and QLD for the floods....hmmm! (lol) ;)

paradox
  • 15th Dec 2011 11:40am
yep re Anna Bligh - I was in Qld during that time,and was very impressed with the way that she was even able to say 'I don't know yet' in a way that STILL inspired confidence.
I was very...

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sherri
  • 4th Dec 2011 02:15pm
I totally agree with what you said about Anna Bligh. It seems to me she did this so well. However who knows who will be premier after the next elction. Campbell Newman seems convinced he will...

yep re Anna Bligh - I was in Qld during that time,and was very impressed with the way that she was even able to say 'I don't know yet' in a way that STILL inspired confidence.
I was very impressed with a lot of community leaders through out that time.

bj
  • 28th Nov 2011 07:38am
To be truthful, I don`t much think either is any good, but in preference Julia Gillard, abbot is a moron

Julia has class, Abbott is ugh!. just look at all the fun the media cartoons put on Julia, none of it ruffles her feathers. She just battles on. We dont give her enough pats on the back

Tempest25
  • 5th Sep 2011 12:21pm
Yes Tempest25, they are morons, but on the other hand Why would Kevin Rudd want to come back after the way they treated him?? I personally wish he would, then on the other hand if it were me, my...

Yeah, I agree chris51, if it were me, I'd demend a whole heap of resignations or firings before i'd come back if I were him. It really is a shame if he wouldn't, because he is the best, totally agree.

19chris51
  • 3rd Sep 2011 11:28am
thanks 19chris51, I agree. Labor party are idiots, but Gillard is preferable. Although after whats been happening recently, maybe Rudd could be coming back. The party just doesn't want to go...

Yes Tempest25, they are morons, but on the other hand Why would Kevin Rudd want to come back after the way they treated him?? I personally wish he would, then on the other hand if it were me, my god they would have to do a lot of crawling after the way they treated me, I really don`t think he would its a pity, b4cause he is the BEST

Tempest25
  • 3rd Sep 2011 08:34am
thank you Tempest25 Rudd is the best choice, I really quite like him. but the Lador Party are idiots ( morons are morons),I`m not real keen on Julia Gillard, BUT and it is a big BUT, Abbot , the...

thanks 19chris51, I agree. Labor party are idiots, but Gillard is preferable. Although after whats been happening recently, maybe Rudd could be coming back. The party just doesn't want to go back to Rudd with its' tail between its legs and go 'please help.' Morons.

19chris51
  • 1st Sep 2011 05:59pm
I totally agree. If they don't get smart and bring back Rudd, they are gonna lose the next election, and they'll have no one to blame but themselves. It was insulting how they ousted him, and...

thank you Tempest25 Rudd is the best choice, I really quite like him. but the Lador Party are idiots ( morons are morons),I`m not real keen on Julia Gillard, BUT and it is a big BUT, Abbot , the biggest creepest MORON, with out a doub. Preferable GILLARD

Tempest25
  • 1st Sep 2011 10:56am
I will also say that what happened to electing people we want............ I am really kind of nutral most of the time, but I did like Kevin Rudd, the lador party corkus had to get rid of him... not...

I totally agree. If they don't get smart and bring back Rudd, they are gonna lose the next election, and they'll have no one to blame but themselves. It was insulting how they ousted him, and didn't allow the people the choice. But Abbot is a dumbass. And he's creepy.

david
  • 17th Aug 2011 02:15pm
To be truthful, I don`t much think either is any good, but in preference Julia Gillard, abbot is a moron

i think they both wear the moranic hat,give them both the flic,find someone who care.i think we would be a long time looking

errolsyd
  • 13th Jun 2011 10:38pm
Hee here 19chris - I would have to agree. I don't have any prefs either way for any politcal party, their leaders etc., but honestly Abbot is a totally waste of time!!
All he seems to want to...

Proteus any thing is better than the queer and the athiest that are currently running this country into the ground. Name one good thing they have done and I'll give you 3 that they have stuffed up! Boat pople and the carbon tax hopefully will kill them off! They are a disaster, no I don't really like Abott but he and his party are miles in front of gillard and her clowns.
What happened to us electing them to do what we want, not what they want..??
You have got be kidding!! THERE WILL NOT BE A CARBON TAX UNDER MY GOVERNMENTsays julia HA HA HA

gabesmate
  • 11th Jun 2011 03:46pm
I agree Chris, Abbot is indeed a moron and has difficulty being a spokesman in public. Definitely not a good image in politics.
Whilst Gillard is more articulate, she did not handle the...

I totally agree with what you said about Anna Bligh. It seems to me she did this so well. However who knows who will be premier after the next elction. Campbell Newman seems convinced he will be. If he pulls it off I think he would only be there for one term. Next he'd be trying for federal politics. To be the prime minister would be more to his liking than anything I think. Maybe I'm just being sceptical.

gabesmate
  • 11th Jun 2011 03:41pm
I agree Chris, Abbot is indeed a moron and has difficulty being a spokesman in public. Definitely not a good image in politics.
Whilst Gillard is more articulate, she did not handle the...

I like Julia, too. Don't know if you ever watch Parliament Question Time on the ABC. This would be an eye opener to an Abbot supporter. She's really good and very succint. Yes, her way of speaking dos put you off a bit, but mostly she talks a lot of common sense. Now, there's talk about Kevin Rudd being brought back. As usual in politics, confusion reigns.

MTD
  • 21st Apr 2011 09:24pm
Hee here 19chris - I would have to agree. I don't have any prefs either way for any politcal party, their leaders etc., but honestly Abbot is a totally waste of time!!
All he seems to want to...

Hi Proteus, I tend to agree on the subject of Gillard & Abbot, neither is of a caliber to run the country, problem is that it has become pure politics for the parties to see what they can get out of it and not run it for the benefit of the country and its people. Who in Parliament is capable of running the country for all its inhabitants? As far as I am concerned, we need an Independant Prime Minister that doesn't belong to any party. I am Liberal in principle, because Labor condones the deceiving of the electorate and thinks that it we won't complain. They will only take advice from consultants that back their policies and discard any other, even if the others are better or right. The first issue to me will be the honesty of the candidates we elect followed by their ability and when put in charge of the kitty, take control over the expenditure of their respective departments and do not take the advice of the fat cats without checking the validity of their requests.
Current example is the proposed ETS & Carbon tax, NEITHER of which will REDUCE the amount of emissions or production of these gasses. Trading permits won't REDUCE them, and a tax on them is only shifting money, it doesn't REDUCE the creation of them. Yet we are told it will solve the global warming crises eventually, but not quantified in either total cost AND/OR what result will be achieved for that cost. Its like saying: Give me untold billions of dollars, but I cannot tell tell you what you will get for it, but I will give some back to you because we have increased the cost of many products which you have to pay for. Does that REDUCE the output of all these gasses? There are 100's of examples of waste and dishonesty in Govt. yet they cover them up.

deb
  • 17th Feb 2011 10:22am
To be truthful, I don`t much think either is any good, but in preference Julia Gillard, abbot is a moron

I agree Chris, Abbot is indeed a moron and has difficulty being a spokesman in public. Definitely not a good image in politics.
Whilst Gillard is more articulate, she did not handle the natural disasters effectively and I felt very disappointed. She was very emotional, and even though it is good to acknowledge peoples' hurt and grief. It could have been done with much more strength and conviction, whilst being informative. Gillard should have delivered the results of the efforts and informed the public of the manner in which the disaster efforts were being handled and continuing to be handled. Her manner was not of the standard a Prime Minister should be.

I must admit the Queensland premier Bligh was fantastic and commendable in the manner she held herself within the role of premier. She did it with such dignity.

19chris51
  • 10th Feb 2011 01:41pm
Hee here 19chris - I would have to agree. I don't have any prefs either way for any politcal party, their leaders etc., but honestly Abbot is a totally waste of time!!
All he seems to want to...

I will also say that what happened to electing people we want............ I am really kind of nutral most of the time, but I did like Kevin Rudd, the lador party corkus had to get rid of him... not the PEOPLE, I find that insulting, he was an elected PM,They don`t need any party to defeat them, they DEFEAT THEMSELVES, but Tony Abbort yuck,yuck,yuck

19chris51
  • 10th Feb 2011 01:29pm
Hee here 19chris - I would have to agree. I don't have any prefs either way for any politcal party, their leaders etc., but honestly Abbot is a totally waste of time!!
All he seems to want to...

thankyou, but then again I say, out of the two of them I think Julia is the best, she does have a stilted way of talking that tends to put people off, I actually prefer KEVIN RUDD to any of them, but Tony Abbot is an idiot and moran,maybe he is good for the libs,

Anonymous
  • 10th Feb 2011 12:49pm
To be truthful, I don`t much think either is any good, but in preference Julia Gillard, abbot is a moron

i am so glad to see that people have the same opinion of abbot as me. i do like julia but she does have a very stilted way of speaking that does put you off even when you agree with her.

19chris51
  • 18th Jan 2011 11:31am
Hee here 19chris - I would have to agree. I don't have any prefs either way for any politcal party, their leaders etc., but honestly Abbot is a totally waste of time!!
All he seems to want to...

I totally agree with you on this, EVERYTHING, people think that the economy was better before, they say Howard gov was about 20million credit, but oh how our systems ran down in that period eg HOSPITALS, the bottom line should be looking out for and caring for our community

Proteus
  • 18th Jan 2011 11:01am
To be truthful, I don`t much think either is any good, but in preference Julia Gillard, abbot is a moron

Hee here 19chris - I would have to agree. I don't have any prefs either way for any politcal party, their leaders etc., but honestly Abbot is a totally waste of time!!
All he seems to want to do, and that is typical of the Libs, is save money, stop spending, cut everything and all in the name of the "economy".
The economy in my opinion is a man made worry, and politicians only look at the bottom line of it. Grr...What happened to us electing them to do what we want, not what they want..??

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