Yes or no to gay marriage
Posted by: shazza96
16th Jun 2015 11:35am
just looking for opinions
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Nefertari
My opinion is that if they want to be together that's perfectly fine but don't call it 'marriage'. Marriage is between a man and a woman so therefore a gay union should have another name like 'partnership' or even 'union' itself or something equivalent but not the word 'marriage'.
Nefertari
Some very admirable comments there Pete! I too get very angry at some people who use the terms 'homophobe' and ' bigot'.to those who disagree with same/sex marriage ( and I still maintain that it should not be called ''marriage') Everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion.
Pete
My position entirely. Now that it's a done deal, while I personally believe the decision should have been made by those we elect to make decisions rather than an expensive non-compulsory voting process, we have pending legislation enshrining same-sex marriage. I personally, because of my beliefs, can never support this. That said, I get very angry when words like "homophobe' & "bigot" are used to describe people who disagree with same-sex marriage. I support the right of everyone to live their lives as they see fit as long as they harm no others in the process. Should I see anyone being in any way harassed because of their appearance, gender, mental capacity, sexuality, opinions they may express on these or other subjects, I will be the first to defend their right to be who What they are. I only ask in return that those who disagree with me give me the same respect & courtesy.
stevet
i don't think most people object, i thiunk the issue is in trying to call it marraige
Shortstuff
Yes, everyone has the right to chose their partner, regardless of sex or our politicians or certain ones opinions
Tina1947
Surely it is more important to be in a respectful and happy relationship. The gender is of no importance and after all any one of us could have our X Y out of kilter.
phoenix
mine are, but for a differing reason :)
chickenman
if people of the same sex wish to live together as a couple, i have no problem with that; but marriage is a union of MALE and FEMALE.
if same sex couples require paper validation of their commitment to each other, call it by a different name/ a different term to describe it.
Philemi
You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination. (NKJ, Leviticus 18:22) Cannot get any clearer - NO!!!
phoenix
may i say, After clicking this link https://www.facebook.com/celebratepride to facebook.com/celebratepride, users are directed to a page that shows what their rainbow picture would look like.
phoenix
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boxhead1958
Yes yes yes
phoenix
Heck Yeah, why not if it makes people happy to marry their partner then go for it (i have a deep respect for those whom choose to or are born the way they are} {{yes i said born the way they are}}.
jadedragon
Almost inevitably, remember 'Loretta' in The LIfe of Brian?
Dora
If gay people want somehting more than the rights they already have why don't theyinvent thier own concept. Why take the term marraige? Maraige is a concept created with the main idea bieng pro creation.
Are they then going to try & find ways to fight for the rights to procreate somehow?
phoenix
please excuse my lack of plain understanding, but could you put that in english. :o ?
jadedragon
And I can't fathom why emotional state is correlated with marital status. Married people have been taking lovers outside marriage since time immemorial to achieve emotional fulfillment for the simple reason that marriage as an institution achieves this only incidentally and that is something that has always been recognised if only implicitly. The arguments in favour of gay marriage apply a plethora of benefits to being married that are romantic fantasy.
Mr.
No
phoenix
for the sake of not getting in trouble i shall say this and this only there is a very damn big difference.
nuff said
Mr.
My dear Phoenix,
1. I did not mention '...a way of life' at all so why raise it?
My comments were in relation to the question of gay marriage.
2. The majority of interviews, statements, press releases etc issued by pro gay marriage groups attempt to paint opponents with the homophobic, narrow minded brush.
3. So you agree that civil unions have been available for gay couples for 9 years BUT...........
In practical terms there is no real difference.
Mr.
My dear Phoenix,
1. I did not mention '...a way of life' at all so why raise it?
My comments were in relation to the question of gay marriage.
2. The majority of interviews, statements, press releases etc issued by pro gay marriage groups attempt to paint opponents with the homophobic, narrow minded brush.
3. So you agree that civil unions have been available for gay couples for 9 years BUT...........
In practical terms there is no real difference.
phoenix
1. may i offer an appolgy to the creator of this tpic as i may go on a response tangent
ok now to respond, how is there any organisations making you via a bully concept into agreeing to a way of life ?
no one sid you were homophobic nor narrow minded
civil unions may be a thing having been around a whil BUT it's not the same as marriage
as for the political bit, that is a topic i shall not answer in here, for i would be in trouble
Mr.
Phoenix,
A couple of main reasons.
1. I do not like people, organisations and pressure groups thinking they can bully me into agreeing with them.
I will not be told that unless I agree with gay marriage I am homophobic and narrow minded.
2. Homosexual couples have had access to civil unions in Australia since 2006.
3. I do not like the political games the ALP is playing. They were in power (well, nominally) for 6 years. What did they do about it then?
phoenix
without raining on the topic here, why no may i ask ?
Anonymous
I would say yes. Who are we to deny others the same rights that we have?
jadedragon
They already have the same rights as everyone else, namely to enter into marriage with a member of the opposite sex. The gay marriage campaign is about claiming anextra rights on the basis of sexual orientation, it is therefore NOT an argument for equality but one for exclusive privelidge, there is no way known I could support such elitism.
Reeree82
Of course. Gay or straight, we should have the same rights.
jadedragon
And we do.
If you want to see homophobia at first hand take a trip to Iran where accused homosexuals are executed publically via short-drop hanging using mobile cranes. If that's not enough take a tour through the IS controlled regions of Syria & Iraq where they throw accused homesexuals off the top of apartment blocks, if the fall doesn't kill them they get beaten to death by the mob waiting below.
Forget about due process, the accusation of homosexual activity or behaviour is enough to warrant a death sentence in these parts of the world.
Life & homosexual marriage are not 'rights' they're privelidges, I'll grant you the first cheerfully but not the second.
jadedragon
I would say no, throughout history the purpose of marriage has been procreation regardless of the couples ability or desire to have children. The idea of marriage as a love match is a relatively recent phenomenon irrespective of whether they are hetero or homosexual. Gay people already have the same marriage rights as everyone else i.e. the right to marry a member of the opposite sex whether or not they feel physically attracted to them. There has existed throughout history as well the phenomenon of marriage of convenience. To allow same sex marriage grants gay people a privilige (however it's spelt) that the rest of the general population does not have or want, that's not equality that's discrimination.
En
Agree with all you have said
CAT17
Thanks for your reply I agree with what you say. It is so sad to think that my marriage of 60 years doesn't mean much to a minority group. Leave the marriage vows to those who believe that marriage is only between a man and a woman.
heath
too true,jade dragon and cat 17..its just a stunt to divert attention from the important issues.gay ppl already have all the benefits,nobody is stopping them from having a ceremony to show their love and intention to live together in a relationship,just call it something else..it is not at all a marriage as has been known for centuries,why start now??after all these relationships are recognised already.why try to pretend it is the same as a man married to a woman..
CAT17
I am with you jadedragon Gays do already have all the legal benefits of marriage as de facto couples. Why a minority group has once again managed to get all this attention is amazing. No one wants to say that the belief in God and his commandments is the reason why a great many of us (me included) say NO. As for using the rainbow as the symbol for this saddens me - the rainbow was a symbol from God when he promised he would never again flood the earth. I worry for the children too how will they know what it is like to have parents like nearly everyone else. There will be a backlash if this comes into law.
chickenman
with you on that, jadedragon
Dora
Are you saying that they need to have a concept of marraige to be happy?
phoenix
without stepping on any toes, are we afraid of gays marriage and allowing people to be happy :o
tanners
Marriage should be for anyone not just straight couples!!
19chris51
i agree with tanners............ Marriage is for people who love each other. and want to be together, I wholly agree with the marriage of people, no matter who they are, they are entitled to marry and have a happy life.
jadedragon
Is that so? What 'science' are you referring to? I remember 20 years ago the breathless anticipation of a homosexual gene or a gene for a natural criminal disposition, today I still am not aware of them being isolated and identified. Noone is born homosexual.
sophiew011
I say yes. Science has proven that many people are actually born homosexual - it's in their genes. Cystic Fibrosis is also in some peoples genes, but we don't say that they can't get married, because it's "unnatural". Homosexuals are just like everybody else.