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Palm oil

What are your opinions on Palm oil?

Do you think it is fair what is happening the orangutans in the forrest?

Give me your opinion.

Last reply: 26th Jul 2014 / 20 replies / Post by Caity1999

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and

Posted by: and
Posted: 7th Apr 2014

and says: it is the worst thing for the deforestation and the animals especially orang-utans it is ugly. laurie Reply

summer

Posted by: summer
Posted: 7th Apr 2014

summer says: keep away from it, Indonesian rain forests are going because of the demand of palm oil. I also believe it is found in a lot of foods like ie chips, that cannot be good for ones cholesterol. I would look for other alternatives Reply

lpullman

Posted by: lpullman
Posted: 9th Apr 2014

summer says: keep away from it, Indonesian rain forests are going because of the demand of palm oil. I also believe it is found in a lot of foods like ie chips, that cannot be good for ones cholesterol. I would...

lpullman says: Never mind chips. Its in your soap, shampoo and body wash. Anywhere they used to use animal fats. Reply

archie999

Posted by: archie999
Posted: 8th Apr 2014

archie999 says: Hello,

There is nothing inherently wrong with palm oil as a product but the damage caused to the virgin forests and the inhabitants, including orangutans, by its cultivation is very servere and must be stopped.

Archie 999 Reply

jjdrer

Posted by: jjdrer
Posted: 9th Apr 2014

archie999 says: Hello,

There is nothing inherently wrong with palm oil as a product but the damage caused to the virgin forests and the inhabitants, including orangutans, by its cultivation is very...

jjdrer says: I agree with you wholeheartedly.
I think I have also read that it is used in some foods and is not good for us. Reply

zoejayne

Posted by: zoejayne
Posted: 9th Apr 2014

zoejayne says: It's unnecessary. Until the 1980s we survived quite well without it - now demand continues to increase at an exponential rate. This should not be happening at the expense of the forests and orang-utan habitat. Reply

mell

Posted by: mell
Posted: 9th Apr 2014

mell says: I think humans can be so cruel we're supposed to be the superior species but if that were true we wouldn't act this way. The poor orangutans in borneo never did anything to deserve wats being done to them and they're supposed to be our ancestors. No animal deserves wat humans think is ok to impose on them even the animals know who the bad guys are. Humans can be so selfish and to quote national geographic channel "only one species has the power to save all other species." Reply

jaydee

Posted by: jaydee
Posted: 9th Apr 2014

jaydee says: As usual the guilty parties are the Corporations who produce consumables using palm oil. It's always corporations first, nature/ fauna last. We need to demonstrate to the corporations that this situation is unacceptable. I don't think that there is anyone who doesn't deplore the orangutans' situation. Reply

lpullman

Posted by: lpullman
Posted: 9th Apr 2014

jaydee says: As usual the guilty parties are the Corporations who produce consumables using palm oil. It's always corporations first, nature/ fauna last. We need to demonstrate to the corporations that this...

lpullman says: Corporations supply a demand. People demanded soap free from animal products. In practice that meant substituting palm oil for beef tallow. Thank you to the world's militant vegetarians. Reply

jaydee

Posted by: jaydee
Posted: 10th Apr 2014

lpullman says: Corporations supply a demand. People demanded soap free from animal products. In practice that meant substituting palm oil for beef tallow. Thank you to the world's militant vegetarians.

jaydee says: You don't seem to realise that soap is only one of an interminable list of products made using palm oil: we are eating the stuff! Just one example of this is biscuits.xx Reply

lpullman

Posted by: lpullman
Posted: 10th Apr 2014

jaydee says: You don't seem to realise that soap is only one of an interminable list of products made using palm oil: we are eating the stuff! Just one example of this is biscuits.xx

lpullman says: Oh I fully realise, but soap is where it started and all because western consumers got squeemish about animal fats in the products they buy.

If you want to talk about food, check the ingredients for anything claiming to be low fat or low cholesterol. Reply

Anonymous

Posted by: Anonymous
Posted: 9th Apr 2014

says: My opinion is that palm oil is not sustainable and a bad thing for orangutans and other things in the rainforest.
For me personally though, I am aware of the issue when it's brought up here or a random post comes up on facebook BUT I don't seem to think about it when doing my shopping... I probably buy a lot of products that use this oil :-( Reply

lpullman

Posted by: lpullman
Posted: 9th Apr 2014

lpullman says: This really grinds my gears. Its my poster child for how well intentioned people who have no real knowledge of the world screw everything up for the rest of us and why a "sustainable" label means absolutely nothing.

Look for tallow 'cause no one needs low fat soap. Reply

Raksha

Posted by: Raksha
Posted: 10th Apr 2014

Raksha says: No I don't think it is fair what is happening to the orangutans.
Did you know that 50% of all products on the supermarket shelves contain palm oil. And it is predicted that this percentage will increase over the next decade unless we the consumer does something about it.
If you buy bread, biscuits, chocolate, chips, some spreads, shampoo or soaps, you are supporting the palm oil industry.
There are products out there that don't contain palm oil, but you have to look for them.
Check the labels on all the products you buy and change to those that don't contain it.
It may mean spending more time shopping for a while as you find products that you like without palm oil, but at least you will be doing something.
If you really feel strongly about it, start emailing your local politician and the manufacturer of the products. Tell the manufacturers that you won't buy their products because of the inclusion of palm oil, and that you are going to email all your friends to do the same. Make a fuss, draw media attention to the problem. Their are some manufacturers who are actively stating on their products that they don't use palm oil, so they are aware of the impact on the consumer.
I know that most people won't be bothered to do anything, but if we do that the practice of using palm oil will go on. Reply

Clint Marchant

Posted by: Clint Marchant
Posted: 10th Apr 2014

Clint Marchant says: Avoid at all costs due to deforestation and health reasons Reply

Anonymous

Posted by: Anonymous
Posted: 15th Apr 2014

says: Palm oil is not an unhealthy oil, it's only when it's hydrogenated. Any oil that is hydrogenated then contains trans fats, and it's these that are incredibly bad for us. If they could find a way to commercially produce it without disturbing orangutans and their habitat I see nothing wrong with it. Same for coconut oil. Demonised in the past but now they know it is really good for us. Reply

schilders

Posted by: schilders
Posted: 15th Apr 2014

schilders says: no, but also not going to kick up a stink and carry on about it like most, who get rather abusive to others. Reply

MsTingle

Posted by: MsTingle
Posted: 16th Apr 2014

MsTingle says: I don't see why people use palm oil or palm sugar is used when there are alternative, like sugar cane and sugar beat and altenative oils to use that do not destroy the homes of endangered animals, Obviuosly many people do not care about any life forms on the planet. Look at what is happening globally so many stupid people are destroying the planet because they are too lazy to stop for a few seconds and make the right choices. Oh well there is always Mars, yeah right. If we can't get it right here in sure a beautiful planet why would we be any different else where. Reply

Caladium

Posted by: Caladium
Posted: 16th Apr 2014

Caladium says: Not only is it not fair on the orangutans, it's not fair on our health.

Palm oil is a saturated fat ... i.e. ... one of the baddies .... unlike olive oil, sesame oil, the nut oils, canola etc.

While it's killing off the orangutans via them losing their homes, it's also killing us off by clogging our arteries.

It's everywhere .... check your home brand noodles packs ... betchya it has palm oil as an ingredient.

Cheers Reply

Bazz

Posted by: Bazz
Posted: 26th Jul 2014

Bazz says: You're right - absolutely terrible. But habitat destruction pales in comparison to the lifetime of suffering & torture we directly inflict on domesticated animals like cows & sheep. Indonesia's rainforests have been destroyed at the rate of 1 football field sized area each year since the 1970s due to meat consumption ... cattle & their feed crops need that land. Likewise in South America. Just look at the videos of the Live Export Trade of Cattle to Indonesia & Sheep to the Middle East. This is consumer-driven... corporations would cease to exist if there were no consumer demand for their products. Reply

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