Government & Politics

job agencies whya er there so many

Government & Politics

Posted by: stretch

5th Jan 2012 12:13pm

why is that in a small town with less than 40,000 people that we have so many job agencies with the same investors as well employees
in more than one company
we have joblink plus , jobs australia , altitudesolutions , speediestaffsolutions , network employmemt , bec , best , crs australia
at the moment and no one has any idea as to why they decided to close centrelink except for it may save finances
my thoughts are that if we keep centrelink and place all agencies back in one building we would better of with finances for the employers , employees and the government


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mysteron347
  • 26th Apr 2012 03:08am

There are so many because there's a lot of money available for little effort. I had an agent complain in another forum a few days ago that she (or her agency) was "ONLY" paid $6,000 if a worker was taken off of the dole and lasted 6 months in the job.

They're useless. I've been sent by Centrelink to agency after agency over the past 10 years while I've been out-of-work. They just pull out the same old record - because you're on the "volunteer" level, we can only let you read our newspapers and use our computers....see you in 13 weeks. Then when you turn up 13 weeks later, they tell you you've been "exited" and nothing will be discussed.

"Volunteer?" Well, since I invested my income in obtaining a degree and then in assets to supplement the pension when I retired rather than drinking/smoking it away, I now am classed as "too rich" and have to liquidate those assets to pay the bills. Hence no dole, and no incentive for the "agents" to help me find a job.

One agent asked me why it was that I was the third person that week with a similar background (degree and forty years' IT experience) who couldn't find a job. Well she, the alleged expert, didn't know - or care - or care to know.

It's because lazy managers with an inflated view of their own IT prowess employ agents to find staff - since they actually have no idea of the technology or terminology themselves. Problem is, neither do the agents (and the attitude isn't limited to IT, I'm sure.)

The agents aren't allowed to charge the candidate for locating a position. They get around this by "representing" the candidate - coming to one agreement with the worker and another with the employer. Pocket the difference.

Motivation - money. Maximise the revenue by paying for the LEAST-QUALIFIED candidate with the least salary expectation. Employer gets the person with the least ability - then complains there's no-one available hence the alleged "skills shortage" excusing the importation of skills we already have in abundance - in order that the recruiters make the money.

One recruiter who actually got me a job twenty years ago (with another recruiter) reckoned he was placing 98%+ of the jobs he had with overseas candidates - was even proud of the achievement. Another complained that they were having to give their overseas acquisitions "skills tests" to make sure they weren't absolute failures - but political correctness leads the pollies to define a six-week O/S quickie course to be equivalent to a local 4-year degree - they're all "qualifications."

The recruiters' parting words are commonly "if you see us advertise a job you think you can do, don't hesitate to call us." Yeah - the candidate does the work, and the agency gets paid. Too lazy to wipe their own backsides.

And recruiters simply move people on to the next job every six months. Why? it creates a vacancy that they can fill with the next six-monther and the agent can claim their commission plus bonus.

A certain band of politicians whinged loud and long about the new arrangements when they were introduced - but they've done nothing whatever about them. Why is this? Perhaps you should look up how Therese Rein - Kevin Rudd's wife - became a multi-millionaire. Clue for the clueless : she's a recruitment consultant. Money for jam.

stretch
  • 26th Apr 2012 10:19am
There are so many because there's a lot of money available for little effort. I had an agent complain in another forum a few days ago that she (or her agency) was "ONLY" paid $6,000 if a worker was...

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stretch
  • 23rd Apr 2012 12:49pm

no i missed the review of the job agencies
but it is easy to believe the numbers on this case
i have found police informers / police investigators in the job agencies area of work and they never seem to go far out of there way to get people back to work but aree fairly quick to offer the pensions to young people
they never seem to have moved foreward in regards to helping people that are unemployed
maybe a few case managers are helpful but most are happy to sit there and ask for the 5 minuite interview and then say with a smile we shall see you next time and this is generally the questions are by the book
but dont help get people back in the work force

LastTimeLord
  • 21st Apr 2012 03:04pm

Hi stretch & fragment

Did either of you see this morning's SMH? An audit of Job Services Australia providers discovered that 58% of job-finding fees claimed by these agencies were fraudulent to the tune of $106 million in the last two years. (best effort for an agency 77% fraudulent). The government has refused to release the names of the organizations but only audited 10 organizations based on their higher claiming rate. The audit included private firms and charities and, according to the press reports, they will not be seeking the entire fee but only the incentive loading!

Our tax dollars at work.

fragment
  • 21st Apr 2012 08:12am

yes we are the same here in nz,too many agencies,every one of those agencies trying to cash in on those that they have on their listings for jobs.And yet we have a govt funded body such as winz but they dont look for jobs for any one,you have to look for yourself or join a job agencies who get payed from that person by taking a quarter or half of their wages.That is wrong.

stretch
  • 23rd Apr 2012 12:59pm
yes we are the same here in nz,too many agencies,every one of those agencies trying to cash in on those that they have on their listings for jobs.And yet we have a govt funded body such as winz but...

i agree they dont mind taking the money but never apear to be doing a lot for the unemployed we may as well ask the government to pay us for the excess dollars they pay the job agency in training allowances
they could at least give us a carears adviser thet knows what they are talking about

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