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Posted by: CAT17

1st Aug 2011 11:29pm

The NBN is not as popular as the PM and the communications Minister are trying to convince us. I read in the Australian that out of the 6000 connections, so far only 41 "customers" have signed on. Can you beat that?? This is yet another policy rushed out by this mad spending government that is a waste of money, billions in fact. They were told that the technology being used is out of date and that there is a better and faster way to bring broadband to Australians. Why does this Government not listen to experts, why do they go ahead with something just because it is what they want and impose it on the rest of us? Wireless connection is the way to go and would cost millions less. The government has not mentioned the NBN for awhile so I guess it is yet another "blunder" they just dont want to talk about, just like the pink bats, school halls, grocery watch, petrol watch etc etc. I use my wireless broadband connection so absolutely wont need the NBN!

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CAT17
  • 12th Jan 2012 10:18pm

To those who are happy to spend billions of taxpayers (which we all are) money on a system that EXPERTS have said is out of date then what can I say. I am one of these people who think taxes could and in fact should be spent on health, housing, roads, education etc. But hey enjoy your internet connection!

Steve49
  • 6th Dec 2011 04:18pm

What about all the people that don't have fast wireless broadband. In my are wireless broadband is at dial up speed and we all remember how slow that was. Just because you don't need it doesn't mean that a lot of lot of other people won't. You have a very selfish attitude.

lpullman
  • 12th Jan 2012 12:05pm
Steve, I don't understand why you are on dial up. Any fixed phone line can be split and you can choose to have your fixed line phone and either dial up or broadband. In any case you can achieve...

Reading Steve's post again, he's not on dial-up, his wireless services delivers "dial-up" speeds. So does mine actually.

Just because you live somewhere with fast, or what you think is fast, data doesn't mean everyone does, mate.

lpullman
  • 12th Jan 2012 11:27am
Steve, I don't understand why you are on dial up. Any fixed phone line can be split and you can choose to have your fixed line phone and either dial up or broadband. In any case you can achieve...

Since you don't understand I'll try to clue you in.

Not any fixed phone line sustain an ADSL carrier. Signal to noise ratio is the usual reason. Line noise can be due to background noise, electrical interference, bad connections, old lines or just plain distance off the top of my head. I have two mates within site of the Adelaide CBD who cannot get a useable ADSL service due to these factors.

Wireless is NOT the answer for a number of reasons. It's expensive both to use and operate, coverage is not that good and it suffers from terrible contention. No one seriously thinks it's an alternative. I certainly wouldn't want to run my business on it!

Fibre on the other hand solves most of these problems. And before you say it has nothing to do with wireless be it 3G or HSDPA, just ask yourself what the back haul from the tower is...

I don't know what you mean by "ny fixed phone line can be split" - can you explain?

paradox
  • 16th Dec 2011 02:49pm
What about all the people that don't have fast wireless broadband. In my are wireless broadband is at dial up speed and we all remember how slow that was. Just because you don't need it doesn't...

Steve, I don't understand why you are on dial up. Any fixed phone line can be split and you can choose to have your fixed line phone and either dial up or broadband. In any case you can achieve maximum speed through your copper connection. its just a matter of fine tuning by a technician and of course paying the right amount of money to your provider. I had a similar situation in Darwin NT and until I looked into it I was on dial up. Mind you Darwin has been serviced for many, many years via fibre optic cable but only to the main exchange. However as I said before with the increasing use of Mobiles, tablets and laptops and so forth it is unlikely that NBN will get as many customers as it expects to have. You just cannot drag a cable behind you where ever you go. I do not use my mobile very much any more since I have retired. The speed of information transfer promised by this Government is also not sustainable in the long run and depends on the server you get your info from.

CAT17
  • 6th Dec 2011 08:55pm
What about all the people that don't have fast wireless broadband. In my are wireless broadband is at dial up speed and we all remember how slow that was. Just because you don't need it doesn't...

Hey Steve49, it has nothing to do with me being selfish, what it has to do with is the fact that the technology is way out of date and by the time it gets to everyone (that's debateable) it will have cost way over the 50Billion and still will be OUT OF DATE. I don't use wi fi by the way I am happy with Broadband. It is just another big booboo by this government.

CAT17
  • 7th Sep 2011 08:42pm

Oh my are we ever in for another great big mess up by this incompetent government! Read the other day that the NBN employs 1200 to service only 1000 customers? This is yet another debarcle and a very exspensive one too. This cable sytem they are forcing on us is out of date and no one seems to be connecting to it. How can a government spend billions on something that is absolutely useless. Most people are using wireless and have speeds this NBN could never deliver. Who wants to be "tired" to a cable system which you can onlty use at home when you can have a wi fi or mobile broadband and use the internet most places. I believe that Optus have signed up not to say "nasty things" about thr NBN! and that Lend Lease are going to fast track the digging of the trenches. This government know they have another disaster so they are pushing the cable laying so that it will be more difficult to get rid of it when they get thrown out of government

lpullman
  • 12th Jan 2012 12:03pm
Oh my are we ever in for another great big mess up by this incompetent government! Read the other day that the NBN employs 1200 to service only 1000 customers? This is yet another debarcle and a...

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CAT17
  • 16th Dec 2011 01:57am
It's a bit like the three Stooges in this Government "that another fine mess you got us into". I guess my biggest worry is that fibre-optics while being a great way to transmit information, will be...

I'd like to get some of this NBN cable wrap it round the dumb Minister and the PM and drop them down in one of the trenches and send them "high speed" far away! Two things about this government you got to agree is they are experts at messing things up and wasting money. But lets give them a BIG FAT pay rise anyway!

paradox
  • 14th Dec 2011 10:49pm
Oh my are we ever in for another great big mess up by this incompetent government! Read the other day that the NBN employs 1200 to service only 1000 customers? This is yet another debarcle and a...

It's a bit like the three Stooges in this Government "that another fine mess you got us into". I guess my biggest worry is that fibre-optics while being a great way to transmit information, will be redundant technology by the time the network is completed. And yet it will not be able to service all of Australia. Outback towns and Communities will still use Wireless or Satellite technology. Even if the optic cable runs past your house does not mean that you will be connected in the near future. Most people I know are relying on a wireless router in their homes to connect to various computers and games consoles. Besides that again to get the full benefit of the promised speeds we will have to invest in a newer model computer to make full use of this technology. With the ever increasing use of Mobile Phones as our means of communication and accessing the internet the optic fibre system is useless.

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